So just b4 lunchtime today Ed came round then 20 minutes later Denyse (my case manager) and Clare, Clare, she has (no) Pink Hair (a psychologist who is attached to me somehow) came round and told me that they would see both the kids in the day. Then me and Ed went out to let them get on and both the kids came and were "talked at"
And according to both kids it was productive. So god knows but...