And Julia brought me over an box of MP3 CD's t'other day, an old collection of mine. I tried to rip them but it wouldn't work so I put the box to one side, I thought that they hadn't worked, not burned properly or summat. Today I was showing Paul, he said "Yep, fair enough, but can you see the tracks on the disc?". Ever since slightly further on in that conversation I have been copy and pasting Julia's CD's onto my PC, it works now that I know a slightly different approach